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NEW SMALLER ZETORS?
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They planned on making a 5441 three cylinder Proxima, it was printed on the very first leaflets but it never saw production.
They have also been talking of a Proxima E-lite especially for your market (a "heavy duty compact") but ZetorNA website shows only 5 dealers in the entire US...
How many do you sell actually ? Are you a farm implement dealer, or a landscape/homeowner type dealership ?
They have also been talking of a Proxima E-lite especially for your market (a "heavy duty compact") but ZetorNA website shows only 5 dealers in the entire US...
How many do you sell actually ? Are you a farm implement dealer, or a landscape/homeowner type dealership ?
I'm not sure how many dealerships there are in the United States but there has to be more than 5.
Anyway, we have been selling Zetor tractors since 1996 and have a few hundred new and used tractors out.
We sell to both markets. Most Zetors are sold to livestock and dairy farmers looking for heavy/simple tractors for loaderwork.
45hp 3cyl. Zetors were a great seller because they were the most inexpensive tractor available with a frame and front end capable of handling large round bales.
It would be great if they would offer a very basic 45-55hp tractor again.
Anyway, we have been selling Zetor tractors since 1996 and have a few hundred new and used tractors out.
We sell to both markets. Most Zetors are sold to livestock and dairy farmers looking for heavy/simple tractors for loaderwork.
45hp 3cyl. Zetors were a great seller because they were the most inexpensive tractor available with a frame and front end capable of handling large round bales.
It would be great if they would offer a very basic 45-55hp tractor again.
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Tybas, how do you guys like the light duty front axle under the 5245 ?? we have one, but needed the planetary front axle, bringing wrapped haylage bales into muddy winter paddocks..
Are the Carraro front axles under the 3340 doing better in extreme conditions ?
Are the Carraro front axles under the 3340 doing better in extreme conditions ?
We never sold the 5245 new. There are a few around from a previous dealer, but I don't think we have been inside one.
The Carraro front axles, for the most part, have been bullet proof.
Of course guys will knock out seals by wrapping plastic, twine, and the sort around the hub but thats no fault of the machine.
The Carraro front axles, for the most part, have been bullet proof.
Of course guys will knock out seals by wrapping plastic, twine, and the sort around the hub but thats no fault of the machine.
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Last year i replaced both front hubs and reduction gears, one 2 months before the other. I am not sure if it is because of very hard loader work, or because the shaft seals failed first: I replaced both hubs with a handfull of filings in it, the shaft ate into the axle stub, driveshaft bearings were totally gone. The 25cm diameter ball bearings for the wheels itself had dents in the bearing cages from all the debris, and the hub input driveshaft could wander an inch when going forward/reverse, untill it ran so misaligned that the teeth of the gears collided.
Oh, if anyone ever replaces such a hub: change the oil and flush all the filings after 5 operating hours, and after 25 again: the replacement gears were rough milled, not ground, which produced enough filings to bust the needle bearings of the driveshaft again. I noticed that on time, now its running fine.
Renze, from the sounds of it your front end just gave out. What kind of loader do you have on your 5245?
Also, on what you have heard on the Proxima E-lite, is this going to be a tractor made in the Czech. At one time Zetor was looking at Kukje to manufacture their compact tractors in the States.
We sell the Branson(Kukje) tractors. They are starting to offer larger tractors that would fit the Proxima E-lite discription.
Also, on what you have heard on the Proxima E-lite, is this going to be a tractor made in the Czech. At one time Zetor was looking at Kukje to manufacture their compact tractors in the States.
We sell the Branson(Kukje) tractors. They are starting to offer larger tractors that would fit the Proxima E-lite discription.
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Using a heavily modified Veto FX12 on it. its a pile of junk i bought cheap, welded the cracks, reinforced it to get 71% more bend resistance at critical areas (i design payloaders by profession 
) and made a tractor subframe of heavy C-channel which one of my previous employers had leftover from a structural steel building. I added parallel linkage to it and 3rd and 4th hydraulic functions.
Branson was a short weekend love of AmJawa, now when Zetor runs the show in Harrisburg directly from the factory, i dont see them tying up with Branson again. If they put 50-70hp three cylinder engines in front of the basic Proxima, put it on 14.9-28 tires and 1.35 trackwidth, with chassis weight and axle capacities as the old UR1 it would make a great "heavy duty" compact... Then for fruit growers they'd need an even more narrow version. I'd make a single unit cab for the compact and the vineyard version, but swap the mudguards within this cab frame to provide comfort space in the compact, and put deeper wells in to put the tires more inwards to narrow the entire tractor.
From Czechia i've also heard of a new basic UR1 so i dont think it will be a Branson they are talking about... next to that, ZetorNA is now a Zetor subsidiary, not independent and free to choose either brand...
) and made a tractor subframe of heavy C-channel which one of my previous employers had leftover from a structural steel building. I added parallel linkage to it and 3rd and 4th hydraulic functions.Branson was a short weekend love of AmJawa, now when Zetor runs the show in Harrisburg directly from the factory, i dont see them tying up with Branson again. If they put 50-70hp three cylinder engines in front of the basic Proxima, put it on 14.9-28 tires and 1.35 trackwidth, with chassis weight and axle capacities as the old UR1 it would make a great "heavy duty" compact... Then for fruit growers they'd need an even more narrow version. I'd make a single unit cab for the compact and the vineyard version, but swap the mudguards within this cab frame to provide comfort space in the compact, and put deeper wells in to put the tires more inwards to narrow the entire tractor.
From Czechia i've also heard of a new basic UR1 so i dont think it will be a Branson they are talking about... next to that, ZetorNA is now a Zetor subsidiary, not independent and free to choose either brand...
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...its only a rumor still.. nothing from official sources
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It must be...
the 4.1 liter four cylinder is just too big and too expensive to sell in a compact... The Proxima is a twice as beefy tractor as a New Holland TDD or an India built JD, but its more expensive too.
They just require a three cylinder to reduce weight and cost for a compact class. I guess a new compact series will be cover anything inbetween a 5213 vineyard, and a 5245 turbo... They can keep the old UR1 portals, and use two widths of extensions to it to keep a unified line of multiple options, just like the original UR1 from 1960...
-FARMERS- can look out for.... they say. So their new tractor is a real farm tractor, not a lightweight toy like a Kubota...
the 4.1 liter four cylinder is just too big and too expensive to sell in a compact... The Proxima is a twice as beefy tractor as a New Holland TDD or an India built JD, but its more expensive too.
They just require a three cylinder to reduce weight and cost for a compact class. I guess a new compact series will be cover anything inbetween a 5213 vineyard, and a 5245 turbo... They can keep the old UR1 portals, and use two widths of extensions to it to keep a unified line of multiple options, just like the original UR1 from 1960...
-FARMERS- can look out for.... they say. So their new tractor is a real farm tractor, not a lightweight toy like a Kubota...
I think this is good idea. They should also use 4 valves per cylinder in this engine and gearbox 12x12 with reverse as standard.
I'm not sure where else the Major tractor will be marketed but Zetor is trying to get back into the smaller cab/cabless, FWA, FEL market in the U.S.(kubota killer). Cab versions will be the first on the line and should be available mid to late summer.
It sounds like the Major series will be assembled in the Czech with a larger percentge of outsourced parts. The tractors will retain a weight and capacity advantage over the "economy" lines of the big 3 and regain a significant price advantage.
It sounds like the Major series will be assembled in the Czech with a larger percentge of outsourced parts. The tractors will retain a weight and capacity advantage over the "economy" lines of the big 3 and regain a significant price advantage.
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A Turkish NH is cheaper, but its axle portals are sized like my 3011 of 1967.... A TD80D is slightly cheaper than a Proxima 80, but there is no other tractor in this class that has a 5 ton rear axle...
