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question Buy new Zetor Forterra 140 hsx or 150hd

gregkon

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Hello what is the main difference for those tractors? Are good has problems ? Engine has power ? Gearbox clutch? I have a offer for 140hsx from dealer for 72000 euro without vat full extra package I don't ask for 150hd but I will ask him .
Work about 80h in heavy soil corn ,cotton , sunflower I have now 12245 foul restoration works like new but I want something bigger and more comfortable and quiter
 
The 150 HD is a litle bit "more" tractor...

Take a look at the technical specs, better hydraulics, front spring suspension in series, front fenders pivoting, slightly larger and more permissible total weight (10 instead of 9 tons).
But the transmission itself is the same.

 
Front Carraro axle is available at same price at hsx . New cabin more quieter . How can upload the pdf from dealership has explained the difference and updates for hsx and hd?

explain the difference and and Changes what is your opinion about this ?


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The 150 HD is a litle bit "more" tractor...

Take a look at the technical specs, better hydraulics, front spring suspension in series, front fenders pivoting, slightly larger and more permissible total weight (10 instead of 9 tons).
But the transmission itself is the same.

Are you satisfied with your hsx?
 
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Are you satisfied with your hsx?
I have none - but drive them both certain times last years.
For me the Carraro front spring suspension is a must have - we have really bad dirt roads and our roads in Germany seem to be getting worse.
And yes, the HD is quieter inside, you can tell. But the cabin is basically the same, only the interior fittings (and insulation?) are different.
Basically, the Forterra cabin is still based on the design of the Proxima cabin - just a little bit improved every now and then. A really new cabin will only come with the new 6 series.
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Use opera is dealership pdf that why . Say about differents about tractor hd and improvment at clutch software gearbox etc

For 72k full extra I think is good price but is 4 cylinder enough? I read 4 cylinder is gutless at heavy plow etc I want only for plow etc no seeding I use for seeding d7207 dueutz

I have 80H to work
 
I have a HSX 140 for last 8 years. I can tell you the difference between the HSX and the HD, but I have the demo HD 150 back in 2021.
 
Hello what is the main difference for those tractors? Are good has problems ? Engine has power ? Gearbox clutch? I have a offer for 140hsx from dealer for 72000 euro without vat full extra package I don't ask for 150hd but I will ask him .
Work about 80h in heavy soil corn ,cotton , sunflower I have now 12245 foul restoration works like new but I want something bigger and more comfortable and quiter
Never seen a 150 hd anywhere but did know of were there was the 6 cylinder version with the deutz engine and about every 3000 hrs clutch packs had to be done you should find out the price of parts as well as since the forterra has been discontinued zetor parts have doubled
 
Here are the main differences between the HSX and HD that we've sold in the USA.
• The biggest difference to me is the hydraulic controls in the cab. The HD has electronically controlled remotes with flow control and timed detent.
• The HD also has 4 remotes where the HSX has three.

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• The HD has a heavier front axle with 10 bolt wheels and optional suspension.

• Longer wheelbase and also a wider rear end.
• The HD also comes with a bigger hydraulic pump with some more flow. I don't have the exact numbers at the moment.

As far as power, we have no complaints with the 150HD that we run, it pulls a 25ft disc and 12 row planter well. And pretty fuel efficient as well.
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Overall we are happy with our HD. We have run HSX's as well and the 150 does feel like more tractor.
 
Is quite the cabin ? Engine has more Power that 16245 at pulling? Has more traction from 12245 and 16245 ? Mane says 4 cylinder is not too good for plow
 
Is quite the cabin ? Engine has more Power that 16245 at pulling? Has more traction from 12245 and 16245 ? Mane says 4 cylinder is not too good for plow
Zetor 16245:
  • 6 cyl. engine
  • 6845 ccm cubic capacity
  • weight 5.7 tons
  • 102.7 kW engine power
  • 548 Nm max torque
Zetor Forterra HD 150:
  • 4 cyl. engine
  • 4156 ccm cubic capacity
  • weight 5.7 tons
  • 108 kW engine power
  • 607 Nm max torque
But - the Forterra has front axle suspension and significantly better 3-point hydraulics. Both together will also improve its pulling power in the field compared to a 16245.

Never seen a 150 hd anywhere but did know of were there was the 6 cylinder version with the deutz engine and about every 3000 hrs clutch packs had to be done you should find out the price of parts as well as since the forterra has been discontinued zetor parts have doubled
Is it possible that you are confusing the Forterra with the Zetor Maxterra Prototypes or Zetor Crystal (they have the DEUTZ engine) ?
 
@gregkon
How old are you, if I may ask? I am now almost 50 years old and unfortunately I already know what a healthy back can be worth, as my back is broken (scoliosis, spinal canal stenosis) and I have had to learn to live with sometimes severe back pain for around 13 years - with no prospect of significant improvement, lots of exercise and no more heavy lifting, but that will never heal my back.

When we bought our first West German tractor in 1990 - we had to start again as farmers in 1990 with less than 1,000 DM in our account, but with my parents' very good training (graduate agricultural engineer and agricultural economist) and with only 18 hectares of our own land + around 70 hectares of leased land.

And when we wanted to buy our first tractor, it was all about the seat. Air seat or mechanical seat. A lot of money for us to start with.
The salesman called his father over, who came with a crutch and a bent back. When asked which tractor he used to drive, he replied in surprise - Lanz Bulldog, you know that.

That day my father decided on the air seat.

Later on, it was a topic for EVERY tractor purchase and my father always said back then: Boy, I can buy you a front axle suspension, cab suspension and the best seat, but never a new back.

Without this fundamental decision, I would probably have retired a few years later with a broken back. That's how I managed at least 20 years, until one of my kidneys gave up and I had to go on dialysis for 7 years and got a new kidney in 2012 and a year later my back gave up with 3 back herniations in a row.

I'm sure I would probably be in a wheelchair today if my father had decided differently back then. He died last summer of Parkinson's after years of being cared for by his family - may he rest in peace...

What I'm getting at is - when you're young you don't notice it, but every blow to the back takes its toll at some point. If you can afford it, you should go for the more comfortable machine. That's my opinion.
 
Zetor 16245:
  • 6 cyl. engine
  • 6845 ccm cubic capacity
  • weight 5.7 tons
  • 102.7 kW engine power
  • 548 Nm max torque
Zetor Forterra HD 150:
  • 4 cyl. engine
  • 4156 ccm cubic capacity
  • weight 5.7 tons
  • 108 kW engine power
  • 607 Nm max torque
But - the Forterra has front axle suspension and significantly better 3-point hydraulics. Both together will also improve its pulling power in the field compared to a 16245.


Is it possible that you are confusing the Forterra with the Zetor Maxterra Prototypes or Zetor Crystal (they have the DEUTZ engine) ?
More torque but not flat curve. 12245 without ballast is 4500 4600 tons but at heavy wet soil has power to pull but spining like crazy or Front axle go up. I think 6.5 7 ton is better. At 2016 crystal 160hd sold new for 73000 euros new alla tractors price go up I think 80-85 K full extra 150hd is fair price .. nh t6 same Power without electronic spools start form 110000 without options
 
... the weight are without extra weights mounted.

At 2016 crystal 160hd sold new for 73000 euros
Thats the first edition I think... some changes are made with the facelift second edition.
 
Don't forget the raised cabin (in the first version you thought you were driving a tank) other details.

I would currently prefer the 150 HD to a Crystal. The Forterra is more sophisticated and the rear axle is better suited to performance than that of the Crystal (which is why there were never any more powerful models, it was crazy to announce the Crystal as a new "series" back then)
 
Last year we made the upgrade from a 11741 to a 150HD. The 11741 was a machine with it's 6cil long wheelbase 135hp. But the HD feels like a whole other tractor. Way more comfort and the wider track width does make a difference. I have almost no experience with a hsx but if I look at used hsx's and used HD's. A HD will bring more value for money I think.
 
I have almost no experience with a hsx
I've owned a HSX since 2017, I have drove and demo a 150HD and a Crystal 170HD too. and if I was going to change again and had the money, I would defiantly try for a Crystal. They really feel like your in a big tractor. A HD only felt a bit bigger than my HSX, as the HD has 650 back tyres and my HSX has 600's. Everything else was just the same. Were as the Crystal you have so much more tractor under you.
 

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