Front mounted rear loader?

[arctic003]

Is it a silly idea?

I've recently managed to get hold of an old single-action rear loader (with wire-pull to release the bucket). It's a handy implement - I have used it on a job already - but mounting it on the front of the tractor would free up the lift for another implement, and make it easier to hitch and unhitch the trailer which is akward with the loader in place. Also it is a bit hard on my back, working in a twisted position for long periods.

Building a 3pt hitch for the front of the tractor would have other uses too, but I was thinking more in terms of a dedicated arrangement as otherwise the bucket when lifted would be way out in front of the front axle. It is a very small bucket, but even so...

Has anyone any practical experience of this idea? Should I just stick with using it on the back of the tractor, and start yoga sessions??

Cheers!

 

[Renze]

You better invest your time in a frontloader (you can get my AutoCad drawings for free when you need them) it will take only a bit more time than a front lift frame, and will be worth a billion more than a front lift mounted rear loader. The rear loaders were built for Fordson dexta and MF 35, designed to load one wheelbarrow at a time...
You arent there when you attach a plate to the two groups of 4 bolts, 500 mm apart on the front axle bracket, the front group of 4x M14 bolts will break off if you dont extend the frame to, at least, the cab carrying tube.

A front lift still doesnt have much use unless you have some machines converted to front end use...

I need to re-check my drawings because the frame i made was a bit more complicated than necessary. So if you are really going to build a tough subframe, say it and i will update my drawings for you so you can build it in a day or two, if you have access to a power drill, and have the rear axle plates laser cut.

 

[arctic003]

Hi

Thanks for your offer - but I think I won't be building a loader subframe this year..

I was kind of hoping that I could knock together a quick solution - but I guess I really knew all along what the answer was

A brief googling session did however bring up a picture of an identical loader mounted on a front 3pt lift:

http://www.ptoshafts.com/newpage43.htm

It kind of looks like the sort of arrangement that would have a short but happy life - although I do wonder if it would survive being used just for snow? It should be stronger on the zetor as the side frames would be longer.

By the way, the capacity of my bucket is around 0.25 m3. I can only take two or three cubic metres of sand in my trailer anyway so it's really not too inefficient for my use. Better than using a spade

 

[Renze]

Your quick solution is using the 3pt hitch loader at the back of your 6945 for the time being, meanwhile spend your time into something that will last, like a decent front loader...

 

[arctic003]

 

[treaney]

J-P,

This look interesting. I cant see how the bucket tips however? The linkage required to do this to stop damage to the tip cylinder is complex.

For light duty stuff like snow it should work fine. Remember the tractor is a lot less manouverable with a loader on front.

TomZ

 

[arctic003]

Hi Tom

The bucket is hinged at about its empty balance point, and is released by pulling a rope attached to a catch on the back of the bucket. If the bucket is empty, this does nothing.

The centre of gravity of a full bucket however is significantly forward of the balance point. Once the apples have fallen on Newton's head it returns under spring power.

This works fine for gravel, and and the like but I have to disconnect the return springs for light loads like horse 'manure' and sawdust.

J-P

PS. Did you once send me an image of a drawing of a zetor front 3pt hitch? I have a feeling I have one on my computer somewhere but I really can't find it

 

[markku]

Hi Arctic!

I have seen a combination like that, but there were 6 cyl Case and fully hydraulic Farmi loader connected to front 3-point hitch. It worked fine, but the efficent was bad. 170 hp tractor and 500 litres bucket

But 5945 is too light for that i think. Maybe for sawmill dust and straw bales loading, but for muck and soil loading...... i will doubt that.

 

[treaney]

PS. Did you once send me an image of a drawing of a zetor front 3pt hitch? I have a feeling I have one on my computer somewhere but I really can't find it

Hmmm..I think that was on the old Zetorworld forum. I 've searched but cannot find it although I do remember it.