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kerosene in diesel
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just get winter mix from the gas station.. much easier.
Here is Vermont, USA some guys mix up to 50% kerosene in their diesel in the winter and call it 'winter mix'. We also have an anti-gel diesel additive for winter. Not too expensive and it works real well. I think the mix ratio is 32 oz / 100 gallons of diesel ( 1/400 ). Good luck!
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When its time, we order a new load of winter mix for our 600 liter storage tank, even when its still 1/3 full. The rest of it will mix and still get plenty of frost protection.
If we have more in the tank, we ask them to fill it up and bring the summer diesel up to winter diesel specs, saves us the hassle.
I assume you dont use the tractor much anyways, so it would be easiest to get a canister of winter diesel at the local gas station and fill it up with that. If it is thaw enough for common rail systems, a little less kerosene in the mix is still good enough for an inline injection pump. I drove summer diesel untill it was -5 degrees.
If we have more in the tank, we ask them to fill it up and bring the summer diesel up to winter diesel specs, saves us the hassle.
I assume you dont use the tractor much anyways, so it would be easiest to get a canister of winter diesel at the local gas station and fill it up with that. If it is thaw enough for common rail systems, a little less kerosene in the mix is still good enough for an inline injection pump. I drove summer diesel untill it was -5 degrees.
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Grumpy you dont have a clue actually. AdBlue doesnt mix with diesel, its an aftertreatment, injected in the exhaust system.
If you dont comprehend whats written, anyone would be glad to clarify their words, so when you DO comprehend, you might actually add something usefull to the board.
Just dont talk nonsense in every thread: in 9 out of 10 posts you're either trying to be funny, not making any sense, or both. I warned you in the other thread, but i'll clarify what i meant the other day just once again, in case i wasnt clear enough the other day.
If you dont comprehend whats written, anyone would be glad to clarify their words, so when you DO comprehend, you might actually add something usefull to the board.
Just dont talk nonsense in every thread: in 9 out of 10 posts you're either trying to be funny, not making any sense, or both. I warned you in the other thread, but i'll clarify what i meant the other day just once again, in case i wasnt clear enough the other day.
Grumpy you dont have a clue actually. AdBlue doesnt mix with diesel, its an aftertreatment, injected in the exhaust system.
If you dont comprehend whats written, anyone would be glad to clarify their words, so when you DO comprehend, you might actually add something usefull to the board.
Just dont talk nonsense in every thread: in 9 out of 10 posts you're either trying to be funny, not making any sense, or both. I warned you in the other thread, but i'll clarify what i meant the other day just once again, in case i wasnt clear enough the other day.
yes i put add blue in to the little tank on my 30 series jd to meet tier4 emmision levels.your the one who mentioned putting kerosene in to diesel then using it in common rail engines if you do that you will wreck it.
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Once again, you're full of shit. Deere doesnt use AdBlue at all for TIER 4 interim, they chose to use a diesel particulate filter combined with cooled EGR.
Sorry boy, but you're out: Go be the popular one somewhere else. Nothing personal, but this board just isnt your facebook page.
Sorry boy, but you're out: Go be the popular one somewhere else. Nothing personal, but this board just isnt your facebook page.
Hmm.. it depence.
We use here Finland kerosene as last choiche to get fuel resist more cold. Actually we mix it to winter fuel to get it work colder than -30 degrees. Also "arctic diesel" is available here, but it is sold at north, here south you should order it to your own container, wich isnt wice for small volumes.
But adding too much kerosene, you can ruin your fuel system 1/3 is said commonly to be max. In pumps like PAL and Bosch row type pumps it is ok, maybe but pumps like CAV etch, it can cause serious damage.
Another point adding kerosene (or antifreeze liquids) is that you must add them BEFORE your fuel gets gold. Adding afterwards wont usually help much. Reason is that paraffin that fuel includes, will get solid at cold. And filling kerosene wont get it back to liquid until fuel warm back to 0 degrees. So if you have a "candle" in you tank or fuel pipes, antifreeze or kerosene wont help anymore.
But if you dont have winter fuel available, works must be done at their time, you must use all tricks then
Then take barrel fuel to warm, add some antifreeze if you can get is from somewhere, then a bit kerosene, and mix. Then you can fill your tractor tank and continue working, but remember change new fuel filters when filling it with winter fuel or your own mix. Water, dirt and frozen paraffin can do lots of dirty tricks when its cold
We use here Finland kerosene as last choiche to get fuel resist more cold. Actually we mix it to winter fuel to get it work colder than -30 degrees. Also "arctic diesel" is available here, but it is sold at north, here south you should order it to your own container, wich isnt wice for small volumes.
But adding too much kerosene, you can ruin your fuel system
1/3 is said commonly to be max. In pumps like PAL and Bosch row type pumps it is ok, maybe but pumps like CAV etch, it can cause serious damage.Another point adding kerosene (or antifreeze liquids) is that you must add them BEFORE your fuel gets gold. Adding afterwards wont usually help much. Reason is that paraffin that fuel includes, will get solid at cold. And filling kerosene wont get it back to liquid until fuel warm back to 0 degrees. So if you have a "candle" in you tank or fuel pipes, antifreeze or kerosene wont help anymore.
But if you dont have winter fuel available, works must be done at their time, you must use all tricks then
Then take barrel fuel to warm, add some antifreeze if you can get is from somewhere, then a bit kerosene, and mix. Then you can fill your tractor tank and continue working, but remember change new fuel filters when filling it with winter fuel or your own mix. Water, dirt and frozen paraffin can do lots of dirty tricks when its cold
