Rebuilding Zetors in Europe (Poland?? or the Czech Republic??).

[pglad]

Hello to you all on the board.
I recently heard on the radio that old Zetors were being bought up here in Ireland and being shipped back to continental Europe (where I can't be sure, was it Poland or the Czech Republic or somewhere else) for rebuilding.
Are any of these machines coming back for sale here or throughout Europe and if so have any of you any experience of them ?

PatZee

 

[Renze]

Most of them are going to Poland. Polish traders seem to prefer Zetor over Ursus because of the higher quality gears used. It was the same design but parts like gears were put undr subcontract of several machining companies throughout the east.

 

[CZcrystal]

Yeaaah, Polish traders, I remember period after our "89 soft revolution", when most of czech agricultural highschools (with lot of machinery) have been closed and they came and bought everything. Here lived the idea, that "green tractors" will come in here and salve our agriculture.................Now they do the same, but it is not so striking. You can buy 1979 8011 for 2300-3000 euros here, and the price is similar in Poland. When I imagine polish trader potential costs for transport from Ireland and also costs for neccesary tractor reparation I get a result, that zetors in Ireland must be REALLY very cheap. Guys, where is the truth?

 

[CZcrystal]

Ok, here is one of the above mentioned .................. header says: " Run in Ireland......................."
http://www.kupsprzedaj.pl/ks-item,678068.asp

 

[Renze]

Yes, 2 wheel drive Crystals seem to be quite cheap in Eastern Europe, i have even seen 12011 being sold in the Netherlands with Czech license plates...
Most of these 12011 in the Netherlands are turbo'd and used as tractor pulling competition tractors, because you can easily get a lot of horses from them with little modifications.

But if you have a 16245 which is sold in the Netherlands for 17.500 Euro, that's a very good resale value for a tractor of 10 years old and 5 to 6000 hrs...

 

[ZETORMATIC!]

YES, CRYSTALS ARE VERY CHEAP IN THE UK YOU CAN GET A 8045 4WD FOR 2000 EASILY THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE 2700 EURO I THINK? TWO WHEEL DRIVE ARE ONLY LIKE 800 - 1500. ONLY FOR ONE REASON THEY ARE OLD!! YOU CAN ONLY GET 1975 -1980 CRYSTALS IN UK, BECAUSE ( 0 ) SERIES WAS MORE POPULAR BUT TRY FINDING A 7245 OR SOMETHING FOR LESS THAN 5000 NO WAY!! THEY SELL LIKE RACE HORSES !!!!! LOCAL DEALER TOLD ME IN WALES THAT POLAND ONLY PAYS 50EURO FOR SCRAP ZETORS AND ONLY 2000 EURO FOR THE VERY BEST ONES BUT SCRAP METAL SELLS FOR NEARLY 150 A TON NOW IN UK SO YOU GET SOMETHIG LIKE 400 FOR A CRYSTAL EVEN AFTER YOU TAKE THE BITS YOU WANT FOR SPARE PARTS OFF!! AND MOST UK TRACTOR DEALERS DELIVER FOR FREE TO A SHIPPING PORT!! SO POLISH GUY ONLY NEEDS TO PAY FOR THE CONTAINER!!!!!

 

[Renze]

You can send them all to me for 2700 Euro.... The whole bunch of them.

A 8045 in good shape goes for 4000 euro on this side of the canal.

 

[ZETORMATIC!]

OK RENZE!!! I'L SEND YOU ONE FOR NEXT CHRIDTMAS!! SERIOUSLY THEY ONLY SELL FOR THAT BUT IF YOUR LUCK TO FIND ONE FOR SALE ON A FARM YOU CAN GET THEM FOR ONLY 1800 EURO OR LESS BUT THESE WILL HAVE BAD TYRES AND LEAKY CAB AND STUFF SO NOT THAT NICE TO LOOK AT BUT GOOD WORKING CONDITION I SUPPOSE? SO YOU WILL NEED TO SPEND THE 2000 EURO YOU HAVE SAVED TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE 4000 EURO TRACTOR!!!! SO NOT THAT CHEAP AFTER ALL? SOME UK FARMERS DONT LOOK AFTER TRACTORS LIKE YOU RENZE!! THEY ARE COVERED IN COW SHIT AND MUD AND VERY STINKY!!!!!! YOU NEED 100EURO OF WATER TO WASH THEM!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ZETORMATIC!]

SORRY RENZE!! I MEAN CHRISTMAS NOT CHRIDMAS 69)

 

[Renze]

A rough 12011 goes for about 3000 Euro..
front wheel drive models usually are a 1000 to 1500 Euro more expensive.

I said good conditon.. I didn't know that English farmers take so little care of their tractors..

By the way, mine is covered in shit as well, cleaning has to wait till its defrosted

 

[ZETORMATIC!]

SOME FARMERS REALLY LOOK AFTER TRACTORS WELL THE WASH THEM EVERY DAY KEEP THEM INSIDE SERVICE THEM EVERY 200 HOURS AND DRIVE THEM CAREFULLY BUT OTHERS(MOST) JUST KEEP WORKING THEM VERY HARD WITH OUT A SERVICE OR OIL CHANGE IF THE DOOR FALLS OFF THEY JUST CHUCK IT IN THE HEDGE !! SOME OLD TRACTORS THAT ARE USED IN THE CATTLE SHEDS DONT HAVE MUDGUARDS OR BRAKES THE BONNET IS THE BRAKE!!!THE ONLY NEW THING THEY GET IS DIESEL IN THE TANK!! BUT NOW THERE IS A NEW THING FROM THE POLICE THATS LIKE A MOT FOR TRACTORS SO IF YOUR LIGHTS DONT WORK OR THE BRAKES ARE GONE YOU GET A FINE AND YOU COULD GO TO GAIL IF YOU GET CAUGHT LOTS OF TIMES I THINK THEY ALREADY DO IT IN RUSSIA AND CZECH? I WILL SEND YOU A PICTURE OF A SCRAPER TRACTOR THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A YARD TRACTOR IN UK THERE IS A BIG RUBBER BLADE ON THE 3 POINT LINKAGE THAT IS USED TO PUSH THE MUCK AND SHIT (TO CLEAN THE CONCRETE) ALONG A PASSAGE TO THE SLURRY PIT, I THINK YOU GET THE IDEA

 

[treaney]

Irish Examiner, Thursday, September 29, 2005 :

Polish immigrants spark used tractor boom

By Ray Ryan, Agribusiness Correspondent
RELIABLE old Zetor tractors, used in rural Ireland for the past 50 years, are being snapped up all over the country and shipped to farmers in Poland. The Irish Farm Tractor and Machinery Trade Association (FTMTA) said the number of old Zetors being shipped to Poland for use on some of that countrys two million family farms has risen dramatically.

FTMTA chief executive Michael Moroney said Polish people working in Ireland are gathering Zetors and shipping them home.

Its developing into a steady market, he said, pointing out an estimated 50,000 Polish workers have arrived since their country joined the EU last year.

Mr Moroney said it could be compared historically to Irish emigrants in Britain who used their hard-earned wages to buy used tractors for farms back home.

The second-hand Zetor models generally sell for under 2,500 and are shipped back to Poland in lorries or containers.

Mr Moroney said the Czech-manufactured workhorses were very popular with Polish farmers, who were familiar with them from the days of communism.

They were used to Zetor tractors and they know how to repair them, he said.

At the height of its success, the Zetor Company sold around 20,000 tractors a year from its base in Brno in what is now the Czech Republic. But production fell after the fall of communism in 1989 and stopped in 2000. A private firm took over the brand in 2002 and new Zetors are on sale here again.

Western Tractors Limited, based in Co Galway, said it had sold a number of second-hand Zetors to Poland.

Theyre taking off our hands what we couldnt sell to farmers here, said director Paul Brogan.

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