Small bale haylage?

[arctic003]

Renze, that's an interesting looking machine...

Tage W - an interesting point. I wondered also about dropping the bales into individual sealable bags, and sucking the air out with a milking machine...

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[markku]

Hmm......

We were one of the first farmers in Finland who started to make a silage with round baler and wrapping system. I cant remember the year Anyway, before that the silage were made with round baler and huge palstic bags. Bale was putted into back tighty and bag closed carefully. This system wasnt good because the silage did not be good enough.

We packed allso very dry silage (haylage) vacuum packs for pets, but those (1 to 2 kg packages) did stay without ruining about 2 weeks only69)

I doubt the vacuum packing, but I am not totally sure. Somebody should be brave and try it!

And if somebody does try it tell me how it works.

 

[arctic003]

Here's an idea that might save me some time in the production process...

Would it work if I had a contractor make conventional big round bales of haylage for me in the field, and then when I had a customer for haylage, break one open at home and then immediately re-bale it with small square baler and wrap straight away with my winter-project home wrapping system?

Or would the re-wrapped haylage go bad too quickly?

Thanks!

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[Renze]

Arctic,

I think the re-baled, re-wrapped silage will rot and mold, because there is too much oxygen getting into it during the breakup of the bale.


The Tawi, i believ eit is a Finnish machine ??

 

[arctic003]

Hi

I cant find any references to the TAWI machine - at least via google or altavista - apart from the site you gave. I have a feeling that if it was Finnish there would be more information about it available on the net.

Agronic and ELHO products are definately Finnish, however...

 

[davy_g]

Hi guys, I bale and wrap about 10,000 small square bales of halyage a year. A year with a good summer its a few thousand less and wet seasons its more as people can not get their hay made conventionally. I use a McHale wrapper, and anyone thinking of the film turning round the bale is on the wrong track. You need a real heavy dense bale for it to sit on the wrapper. Light small bales fly off and are hard and slow to wrap. Make them big and heavy, and hold them on and screw up the hydraulics to spin the table faster.
I have wrapped 1000 in a day but there was 3 of us and the work is a killer, lifting them from the field, lifting them onto the wrapper then off again.
Horse folk love them as they dont smell and are never dusty so even in good summers they are popular, plus you can store them outside all winter freeing up barns.
A 40HP tractor drives the wrapper no problems off a return spool valve and a electronic clock/counter same as the mcHale big wrappers is used to control the number of turns and wraps.

 

[wrapper]

here is something i found on you tube so they are out there. mchale make a small square bale wrapper but i dont think its in line, you load the machine by hand which would too much like work, the inline machine in the video is the buisness!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfuJuS8Z7Lo&NR=1

 

[ricc]

sometime in the early 70's my father got hold of some thick plastic bags that took a conventional bale and were sealed with wire ties. first year we followed the insructions and baled behind the mower and bagged in the field... the cattle liked the end result but each bag had a couple of gallons of smelly liquid in it, the second year we reused the dirty bags with a couple of days wilt which cured the liquid problem. the bales were still a 2 man lift though. we carried on for a couple of years with the grass in a small orchard where it was impossible to make hay. we gave up on the system because of the manual handling. our international b46 baler handled the bales ok

later i used a farmhand 804 belt type round baler for bagged and wrapped silage , that would produce bales of any diameter upto 5 foot, we always stuck with 4 foot cos that was the size the bags were and later the biggest that the contractors wrapper could handle... and the massey 35 and hornhraulic loader struggled to lift a wet one.


you do now occasionally see small bale wrappers on ebay, but i would say you need some sort of sqeeze type handler on a front loader to handle the bales.... but we always used a simple spike for the big bales with patches or tape to seal the holes.

 

[gijoe]

These old Far balers like this one http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.broad-agri.co.uk/images/uploads/Deutz%2520HD440%2520baler.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.broad-agri.co.uk/list.cfm%3Fcat%3D2&usg=__S_XYMW5HlJ2-nl7b6DbglTPQbHU=&h=426&w=568&sz=97&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=mcMyxBu6wwhytM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=206&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfahr%2Bbaler%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D610%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=360&vpy=253&dur=1254&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=200&ty=106&ei=pEl6TMj9CMbm4gbWmd3rBQ&oei=pEl6TMj9CMbm4gbWmd3rBQ&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:0

are the best to use as they have a slip clutch instead of a shear bolt

 

[diyfarmer]

This post was started in 2004 and got no replies till 2010 a six year gap and none till now eight year gap, there a contractor near me specialising in small bale haylage for the horse market, they use the grass to produce the bales.

 

[you_know_me_]

so many old posts you see round bale haylage