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Upgrade from 7045 to what?

zipperno

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Hi

I have a early 80's Zetor 7045. Ok tractor but I want more comfort and a newer tractor.

Would it be a good step up to go for like a 1995 Zetor 8540? How much better are they?

Or do I have to go up to a 6341 or even newer Zetor?


My question is really is the 7540, 8540 and 9540 a real upgrade over the old Zetor?

Anyone?

//Tom
 
an 8540 is an upgrade in traction, but in normal (lighter) work you wont feel it because its so much heavier. If you could use more traction, go for the 95 or 10540 and if you're ok with the traction, go for a 63/7340 or a 63/7341 with the long stroke 3.9l engine.
Zetor acknowledged this and pulled the classic UR1 rear end into the 120hp class with the Proxima, and only sells Forterras above 100hp nowadays.
 
an 8540 is an upgrade in traction, but in normal (lighter) work you wont feel it because its so much heavier. If you could use more traction, go for the 95 or 10540 and if you're ok with the traction, go for a 63/7340 or a 63/7341 with the long stroke 3.9l engine.
Zetor acknowledged this and pulled the classic UR1 rear end into the 120hp class with the Proxima, and only sells Forterras above 100hp nowadays.

Is a 8540 an Upgrade considering cabin Comfort, cabin noise, transmission syncronized? . Im not after anything bigger or with more traction. I want an easier tractor to operate?

Thanks for the feedback so far.

//Tom


 
I guess you'll have to try one yourself. I havent used one, just drove one home over the road. It still has only one reverse gear (with three powershift steps though) so its up to you how it appeals to your situation.
 
I guess you'll have to try one yourself. I havent used one, just drove one home over the road. It still has only one reverse gear (with three powershift steps though) so its up to you how it appeals to your situation.

Thanks! Yes I will have to try one out.

Does the 7540, 8540 or 9540 come with a shuttle transmission? Or when did zetor come with this option?
 
The series of tractors you are referring to was a model that zetor updated the ergonomics of the tractor. they introduced hydrostatic steering (which replaced the assister ram of older designs) relocated the shifter to the side of the operator, cleaned up the instrument cluster and 3ph controls and fitted a new cab. the cab was a bit of a disappointment as it didnt significantly reduce noise levels compared to older designed but it did look better. ive never run one of these tractors so i dont know if they had a shuttle or synchronized gears but the xx41 super series of zetor tractors had the option of a mechanical reverser (shuttle) and synchronized gears. something that i believe you are interested in. also they were a very good series in my opinion. hope this answers some of your questions
 
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I guess you'll have to try one yourself. I havent used one, just drove one home over the road. It still has only one reverse gear (with three powershift steps though) so its up to you how it appeals to your situation.

Thanks! Yes I will have to try one out.

Does the 7540, 8540 or 9540 come with a shuttle transmission? Or when did zetor come with this option?
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The 7540 came standard With mechanical Shuttle. the 85-95-105 had 18/6 transmission With an option of two or Three powershift steps. you could get the mechanical Shuttle as an option on these as well, but wery few of them were fitted With that. and those wich had it had problems With synchromesh after a while. the 10540 you could get With a digital Dashboard and Bosch EHR lift. all in all these were good reliable tractors.
 
Thank you Donny2stroke and forterra11441.

This was very useful information.

I Guess either way I will have to try one of these out. Is the 7540, 8540 etc from mid nineties called the UR3? And the newer 6341 etc called super?

I have also been looking at Valtra/valmet, New Holland and Case in this price range but I want to stick to Zetor because I like the tractors. And the spareparts prices are way less expensive.
I also have good contacts for parts in Brno.

 
Sorry for the late reply

i think the UR stands for the platform designation of the tractor: http://www.zetor .com/history

UR III being a heavier design than UR II and UR I, i assume....
we currently own a claas tractor, and although it is a good tractor, it has been much more costly in terms of running costs (maintenance, consumption, repairs) zetors of similar horsepower and year offer parts that are almost half the cost (if not even less). i have heard though that the newer zetors are also becoming costly to own/operate no thanks to stricter emissions regulations and component sharing between tractors (carraro come to mind in this respect)

 
The Carraro axle isnt that much of a problem... Its better than the light duty axle on the 5245... Its horses for courses, nothing wrong with Carraro axles that are used for the purpose they were designed for, i just dont like the new Major because its so cheap that they must have cut some corners (just like New Holland TD-D and other competitors in that class... When buying a new 230mm angle grinder, i asked the salesman for the one-but-cheapest Hitachi... He frowned upon me and asked why: I said that as a rule, to cut the last 15% of cost, you'll have to give up 40% of the durability, fancy angle grinders have soft start, vibro grip, whatever bells and whistles, but once you've stripped those features out, you'll have to meet the desired price level by picking smaller sized bearings and the such... But when you take a 10% smaller bearing, it will have a 30% shorter lifespan, so when cutting costs, at a given point it will exponentially worsen the price/performance ratio. So with angle grinders, i want the one-but-cheapest Hitachi because it doesnt have the bells and whistles, but it does have the basic durability. So no Major for me, i prefer the one-but-cheapest (Proxima) because i feel confident it wont break a halfshaft pulling the 12 ton dumptrailer like we did all day long with a 6718 and an 8011 today.... If you put the 3pt hitch loader counterweight i use behind my 5718 on a Major, it already exceeds the max allowable vehicle weight of a new Major... its just a hobby tractor like Zetor never built before... :sneaky: The biggest market for them is Poland, where farmers get 40% European subsidies to buy new tractors, where they replace an older Ursus C-355 witha Major 80, pulling the same old 2 furrow ploughs and 2 meter cultivators.... Oh, and of course its a great lawnmower for American landowners and hobby farmers.. Gimme a Proxima any day, with the good old UR1 based 6 speed, and enough torque to close the gap between gears.... Having a lot of gears is just a poor excuse for a declining torque curve...

AAAAAnyways.... I'm playing the same old song again... ;) lets move on:

The most important reason that parts for newer Zetors are more expensive is that parts wholesalers dont buy them by the Europallet because there is less demand for parts for these newer tractors. 95mm bore piston and liner kits are dirt cheap because many tractors of that age have clocked 15-20.000hrs and could use a new set. UR3 engine parts are a lot more expensive because there is hardly any demand, only a few of them have clocked those hours, and the ones that need new piston and liner kits have had a calamity such as a seizure due to low oil level or severe overheating, so not a big number.

Anyways, your fuel consumption will go up with a heavier chassis and more sophisticated transmission of the UR3.
If you want more comfort, get a Super or a basic Proxima. The 8540 i drove with an empty dumper was a bit sluggish. Great tractor for heavy traction, but for general work a 7745, 6341 or 6441 will do the same work with 15% less fuel. My 3011 smokes like hell because i never tuned the pump back after replacement, i guess its putting out over 50hp because the clutch slips easily though there is plenty of friction material left, but no matter what you do, transporting sand with an 8ton trailer it just doesnt ever get over a consumption of 2 liter per hour, because its light and efficient (yet has plenty of ruggedness to take that load)
Only with the 10/12 ton tandem i pick the 5718 because the 2.5 ton drawbar load is too much for the 3011 rear tires and axle, and the tandem would steer my 3011, instead of vice versa.
 
wasnt suggesting that carraro was of bad quality, just that a lot of tractors use them as a supplier, thus costs between different tractor brands of the same category are beginning to equalize due to global component sharing. carraro was just an example of one component...
 
wasnt suggesting that carraro was of bad quality, just that a lot of tractors use them as a supplier, thus costs between different tractor brands of the same category are beginning to equalize due to global component sharing. carraro was just an example of one component...
True, that was also partly my point. the very solid UR1/Proxima rear end outlasts its competition by far, but Zetor could no longer compete with it against the Indian built Deeres and the Turkish built CNH models. So they decided to start using this cheap Carraro rear end, which is pretty limited in capacity and durability, just like anything else in this class... But dealers must be careful to whom they sell it to, as it cant take the same abuse an old UR1 could take.... Its a light duty tractor, where the UR1 was of heavier duty than most other makes during the 70s to 90s. My 3011 has 8x M22 wheel nuts, where my brothers Deutz D6206 has 6x M18 wheel nuts... just an example, but bolt for bolt and shaft for shaft, the UR1 had no competition in beef for the buck, in its day.. Well perhaps the IH 44 series maybe, it was also a very sturdy tractor in the 60-80hp class.


 
Thank you Donny2stroke and forterra11441.

This was very useful information.

I Guess either way I will have to try one of these out. Is the 7540, 8540 etc from mid nineties called the UR3? And the newer 6341 etc called super?

I have also been looking at Valtra/valmet, New Holland and Case in this price range but I want to stick to Zetor because I like the tractors. And the spareparts prices are way less expensive.
I also have good contacts for parts in Brno.

Hai zipperno,i own a jd 2700/zetor 8540,following your previous post i'm pretty sure you have good source for zetor parts in brno,could you kindly help to know where one can get parts at affordable price?thank you in advance.
 
Thank you Donny2stroke and forterra11441.

This was very useful information.

I Guess either way I will have to try one of these out. Is the 7540, 8540 etc from mid nineties called the UR3? And the newer 6341 etc called super?

I have also been looking at Valtra/valmet, New Holland and Case in this price range but I want to stick to Zetor because I like the tractors. And the spareparts prices are way less expensive.
I also have good contacts for parts in Brno.

Hai zipperno,i own a jd 2700/zetor 8540,following your previous post i'm pretty sure you have good source for zetor parts in brno,could you kindly help to know where one can get parts at affordable price?thank you in advance.

Hi

Contact Zdenek Nowak at sentparts@gmail.com

He will help you out. It is easier and cheaper if you have done the research and have the partnumbers ready.

//Tom
 

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