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- TriArthBach
Hello there,
Bought a 6245 with an Allied loader for a great price. Some minor things to fix over time (like I was surprised to peel back the rubber mat on the left side over the battery box and found the metal rotted through and through) and there are some electrical issues as most lights don't work and the ignition selectors are so worn that it's a magic trick to figure out how to pull the key and get the one light to actually turn off, and of course the seat rails are locked solid with rust and Granny had it locked in the full forward position... but these are minor fixes for someone with patience, rust remover, a welder and more patience.
My real concerns are: the high/low range lever on the right side on the floor is clearly disconnected through the cab floor (it wiggles listlessly back and forth, like my oldest trying to decide about a career). It's stuck in high range though, which is probably where I'd leave it most of the time anyone, so it's not something I need to fix to use it. I think I see the lever under the floor where, if I really had to, I could manually move it along the tractor body. I pulled the rubber mat and flange cover off and felt around and seems to me it's a snapped cable connecting through to the lever somewhere under the cab. Looked through the book and didn't see the schematic showing the connection, or any description in terms of wire gauge etc...I crawled around under and don't see the other end of a snapped cable connected onto a lever on the tractor body and i'm starting to worry it's not a quick fix. It also seems pretty clear that the lever pivot point is well under the cab floor pan and I'm starting to worry I'll have to dismantle a number of things to get access to it. So: anyone have a schematic? anyone know what that cable connects to under the cab floor? Anyone know what I"ll have to pull apart to make that particular repair?
Number two: PTO wasn't moving when I started up and was kicking tires trying to decide if it was worth the money. Once I got it engaged using the left side floor lever pulled back to the second position (the loader/hydraulics full forward work well), it won't turn off again. Third position back (full neutral) seems right because I lose hydraulics and the PTO, and full back leaves me PTO but no hydraulics at all. I hear no grinding, no obvious leaks. The problem is that when I move the left floor lever full forward to engage the Allied loader hydraulics...(the only position where hydraulics seem to work at all)the PTO keeps turning.
I saw someone else say there is a sympathetic turn in the PTO and not to worry since there's no torque on it and it would not spin under load.. I'm too chicken to 'grab' it though someone else here thought you could do it... ( everything I've ever been told about PTOs equate to "only a fool grabs a spinning PTO...and a fool and his arm are soon parted" etc...). What really worries me is that I also read someone else suggest that a PTO that won't turn off meant a serious internal issue... requiring a new pump or some such thing... If so: can anyone ballpark the time it would take a shop to split and repair and put it back together again?
I have a field to mow and a post hole digger to use for another pasture fence line and I can't have a live PTO while driving around with those implements connected up.
Any advice is appreciated. Cheers and thanks for reading that wall of text.
Bought a 6245 with an Allied loader for a great price. Some minor things to fix over time (like I was surprised to peel back the rubber mat on the left side over the battery box and found the metal rotted through and through) and there are some electrical issues as most lights don't work and the ignition selectors are so worn that it's a magic trick to figure out how to pull the key and get the one light to actually turn off, and of course the seat rails are locked solid with rust and Granny had it locked in the full forward position... but these are minor fixes for someone with patience, rust remover, a welder and more patience.
My real concerns are: the high/low range lever on the right side on the floor is clearly disconnected through the cab floor (it wiggles listlessly back and forth, like my oldest trying to decide about a career). It's stuck in high range though, which is probably where I'd leave it most of the time anyone, so it's not something I need to fix to use it. I think I see the lever under the floor where, if I really had to, I could manually move it along the tractor body. I pulled the rubber mat and flange cover off and felt around and seems to me it's a snapped cable connecting through to the lever somewhere under the cab. Looked through the book and didn't see the schematic showing the connection, or any description in terms of wire gauge etc...I crawled around under and don't see the other end of a snapped cable connected onto a lever on the tractor body and i'm starting to worry it's not a quick fix. It also seems pretty clear that the lever pivot point is well under the cab floor pan and I'm starting to worry I'll have to dismantle a number of things to get access to it. So: anyone have a schematic? anyone know what that cable connects to under the cab floor? Anyone know what I"ll have to pull apart to make that particular repair?
Number two: PTO wasn't moving when I started up and was kicking tires trying to decide if it was worth the money. Once I got it engaged using the left side floor lever pulled back to the second position (the loader/hydraulics full forward work well), it won't turn off again. Third position back (full neutral) seems right because I lose hydraulics and the PTO, and full back leaves me PTO but no hydraulics at all. I hear no grinding, no obvious leaks. The problem is that when I move the left floor lever full forward to engage the Allied loader hydraulics...(the only position where hydraulics seem to work at all)the PTO keeps turning.
I saw someone else say there is a sympathetic turn in the PTO and not to worry since there's no torque on it and it would not spin under load.. I'm too chicken to 'grab' it though someone else here thought you could do it... ( everything I've ever been told about PTOs equate to "only a fool grabs a spinning PTO...and a fool and his arm are soon parted" etc...). What really worries me is that I also read someone else suggest that a PTO that won't turn off meant a serious internal issue... requiring a new pump or some such thing... If so: can anyone ballpark the time it would take a shop to split and repair and put it back together again?
I have a field to mow and a post hole digger to use for another pasture fence line and I can't have a live PTO while driving around with those implements connected up.
Any advice is appreciated. Cheers and thanks for reading that wall of text.
