Whoops: I think the evil already has taken place....
some gentle grinding is normal, you hear the gearwheels slow down quickly. But according to what you say, having to shut down the engine before you can put it in PTO gear, the clutch is worn, or needs major adjustment. (or you forgot to disengage the clutch befoire shifitng into gear...
)That's exactly what you get from it... Excessive wear..I think some day your PTO just doesn't stop anymore when you pull the lever.
Does the PTO shaft stop when you have nothing attached to the shaft ?? In neutral, it should turn slowly, but stop when you grab it with your hand (without getting rough on your hands) This is because it rolls inside another shaft of the main gears, the rotation in neutral is just because of the
oil sticking the shafts together. If it doesn't stop when you have it in gear, with the PTO clutch pulled, the plates are worn or need adjustment.
I forgot the PTO clutch once, while driving manure. halfway the land, the tractor (5245) started pulling heavy, and smoke came from the bellhousing.
There are tractors, like the Fendt 600 series, that have a mechanical engaged PTO with a clutch lever that can be pulled all day without trouble, but that's a totally different construction, an "ortlinghaus" engagement roller instead of pushing a bearing into a set of springs.
Sorry, but i cant see why people dont buy an owners
manual with the tractor, if they are new to tractors... I dont blame you, you just learned these bad habits from the owners..
(anyway also just passenger car drivers have some really bad operating habits they arent aware of...)