news New Major series on Agro Show Bednary (PL)

Zetor announced an hour ago on Facebook, that they will introduce a Major 80 on the Agro Show Bednary (Poland)

No details known yet, though i expect it to be basic Antar models for the 3rd world market, just with a TIER 3B engine as mandatory in the US and Europe. Or perhaps a new name for the basic Proxima models, to set them apart from the Plus and Power versions.
However there were rumors that it would have a Carraro rear end fitted... ???

...just wait and see

 

[Renze]

if the carraro transmissions are as bad as you say, then it will be a tragedy if they put them into their new "major" brand tractors.

They arent bad compared to the Indian John Deeres and the Turkish New Hollands... But its a totally different class than the old Major 6340.... Therefor it would be better to sell the Antar models with this cab, as Major, and the Carraro rear ends as Minor. They really are light built, like the 2011 Minor of 1963. That name would give a true impression of what the tractor is capable of. Dubbing them Major would only lead to disappointment

 

[Renze]

Hmm... If the series with Carraro light duty rear ends will be called Minor, the basic UR1 (Antar with that new cab) be called Major, they could call the basic Proxima the Super. It would be less confusing than to have a Proxima 90 that can either be a 30.000 euro 10/2 transmission, or a 42.000 euro 24/24 shuttle transmission....

 

[per_ola]

I dont understand how it can be cheaper for Zetor to buy the gearbox and rear end from carraro than to build their own rear -end and gearbox they already have.
They should build a 3 cylinder version of todays 4,156 liter in the 50-75hp range, fit the proxima 12x12 box and try to reduce the total weight from 3750 to 3000kg.

 

[Renze]

They should build a 3 cylinder version of todays 4,156 liter in the 50-75hp range, fit the proxima 12x12 box and try to reduce the total weight from 3750 to 3000kg.

Exactly my thought. With smaller tires the weight will reduce anyhow, then remove the front weights, use a lighter Carraro front axle, and the cab would be a little lighter too, because there are mechanical controls and less upholstery and instrumentation.

 

[per_ola]

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Donl look as this is a orginal zetor

 

[Renze]

Well, the spin-doctors try hard... But it never will be a Major...

The looks arent great yet, but better now they changed some of the dull gray plastic below the headlights to red and black.

 

[Renze]

ZETOR TRACTORS a.s.

Zetor tractors, service and original spare parts.

www.zetor.com

Zetor put it on their website, which makes it more definate... CEO of Agco corporation Martn Richenhagen said that Agco is also wanting to create a new light duty tractor in the 50-80hp range, not based on existing Valtra or MF designs (though there are plenty of old MF ranges to pick from) but one from scratch: NH and JD already have them. Perhaps Zetor just couldnt miss this boat of a cheap light duty high horsepower tractor in the current market, although its quite a culture shock if you're used to the robustness and durability of the UR1 chassis....

The main difference between the other contenders (soon Agco, Deere, CNH) and Zetor is, that the others are full liners that spend top dollars on advertising and imagebuilding. If Zetor gets into this market in which the price inevitably dictates a lowering of the standard, (which is why they chose a Carraro rear end over the heavy duty UR1 rear end) i dont know if they have enough on the higher end to balance the public opinion...

Just to name man and horse: Carraro says the max rear axle torque of the T5.5 transaxle is 17600Nm or roughly 1760kg/m. Combined with the max loaded tire radius of 700mm, that is 1760/0.7 is 2514kg of drawbar pull. Now when we pull a wheelie when ploughing through hard pan with a three furrow reversible plough, in average traction conditions (friction coefficient 0.6) we should stay under 2514/0.6 is 4190kg weight... So in practice the max axle torque will often be exceeded. which will result in premature wear.

Next to that, Carraro tells the tractor may be ballasted to a total weight of 3820kg, where its own weight is advertised as 3090kg: That leaves only 730kg of load capacity

Conclusion: the margins are thin. A customer that changes a 7245 for one, will be just as disappointed as the people who traded their Deere 1950 or 2250 for a Carraro built 5300 or 5400 10 years ago... Anyways, Zetor advertises it now as a "medium duty" tractor, and larger farmers that need a yard tractor for intensive use, should keep it at a Proxima

 

[zetorfanpl]

It has Carraro T506 transmission

 

[Renze]

So it seems they keep the basic Proxima in production...
i hope there will be plenty of them available on the used market when i buy a used one in 15 years from now..